How did you two land the job to do Hellboy's makeup?
I started hearing Hellboy was going to be made. I was a
already a fan of the comic, so I showed Matt the comic and we both
decided it was something we could do at Rick's but it wasn't
something Rick was chasing after himself. I managed to get
hold of Del Toro and said we would really like to give it a shot.
Matt grabbed a cast of Ron Perlman and within 3 hours he had blocked
out the makeup.
Why did you choose Ron
Oh no one else could have played Hellboy. The character was made for
him. When I read the comic, I knew it had to be Ron. This was before
we knew Guillermo wanted Ron. At one time there was talk of other
actors playing Hellboy, much later than when we did the original
makeup and I wasn't interested in doing it unless it was Ron.
Who dictated the design?
I did a maquette after I read the first comic and it was just
terrible, totally wrong idea. Then I read the Corpse which was a
real cool Hellboy story and we both worked on a new version of the
maquette and I think we got it that time. Then we did a bust.
CW: At this
point we were racing to get it done. Guillermo wanted to come see
the stuff and we were just working to get it finished .
MR: He loved it, I'm not kidding, he measured it and wanted every
millimeter to be the same. Which is disturbing because it was thrown
together so quickly sort of like a sketch. He basically tortured me
to duplicate that bust on the makeup and I was just crossing my
fingers we could pull it off.
Doesn't Del Toro have a makeup background?
Oh yeah, he's really good which makes it so
much better, but I tell you every single aspect of that film, he had
a hand in. I've never worked on a film where the director was there
all the time: costumes, props, makeup. He really is a miracle to
LMC: Was there any interest in doing other parts of the FX work
other than the Hellboy makeup?
wanted to do the corpse too, but we would only have time for the
makeup on Ron and his double. It was just huge.
were the 2 of you able to go get a film project like that at Rick's
Well, Chad and I have worked together for a
long time, back doing Nutty Professor. Once Rick approved it, he
could just turn it over to us and not worry about it. In fact, he
was giving alot of attention to The Haunted Mansion and didn't have
alot of time for Hellboy. We just coordinated it from there.
You guys team up alot on many projects, how has that been working
We just complement each other well, similar likes and dislikes. We
definitely have our arguments and creatively we click very well. We
have a very good rapport that way.
Is Rick's shop on hiatus?
They just started back up on Ring 2 actually.
What are you doing next movie wise, anything
new with Del Toro?
He's going back to Spain to do another movie. a few years
back, he said, ok I'm going to Spain to do Devil's Backbone and I'll
come back and do Hellboy. Now, he's off to Spain again to do
something else and then he'll come back, but not sure what he will
Del Toro really brings alot of energy to the
MR: Oh yeah, definitely. It's great to be
working with a director that loves the genre and the movies he is
making. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have just dropped our
lives and went to Prague to film for 6 months.
What lead to you guys doing When Zombies
It was kind of a side project at the time. We both were playing
Resident Evil back then, I guess 6 years ago. We decided to take on
a zombie project, just a zombie in an alley or something. Once we
figured we had to get a high end camera, lighting, and would have to
film it sort of guerilla style, we sort of got turned off to doing
it. So we figured we would get a video camera and see what we could
do with that. We decided to do a documentary style similar to Cops.
We came up with an initial story idea. Started thinking about
stories like what would happen if a bear got stuck in a sauna. Let's
turn that around and make that a zombie and how ridiculous would
that be. We grabbed a guy from the shop, Frank Rydberg, and figured
he would make a good cop. Turns out he was such a great actor that
everything in that first segment really worked. Then we decided, hey
lets make this a half hour and see where we could take it.
we got a connection to Bernie Wrightson who said he would love to do
a zombie in it. We were just floored. We designed a scene for him
after his Mementos picture. Now we are looking to extend it further
into a TV series. Expand it further with vampires, ghosts