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LMC: Talk about how masks have evolved over the decades.  What were designs, quality and appearance like in the early days as compared to today?

DL: I don’t think there’s been a huge shift in design, but some things have happened quality-wise.  In the early ‘80s there were a lot of small, independent mask companies all around, selling handmade “garage masks”, making wonderful stuff.  Then most of them disappeared and in there were a lot fewer mask artists around in the ‘90s.  Everything was being mass-produced overseas by the major manufacturers and sold for prices that were inflated in terms of the quality you were getting but were still cheaper than an independent artist could produce them.  Only a few true fine artists, like Jeff Death, hung on.  Even Harry Inman gave up for awhile, and collectors were thrilled when he got back into the business.  Harry is just too good not to be making masks.

There were companies that got too big too fast.  They suffered a severe drop in quality and lost their reputations with collectors.  The reason was that they wanted to sell to the big catalog dealers, who would promise them gigantic orders for masks if they could offer wholesale prices lowered to a pittance.  Unable to resist these offers, maskmakers who had once been producing wonderful, first-rate work suddenly started cranking out flimsy cheapies with rush job finishing work in order to satisfy the big suppliers.  The funny thing is --and when I say “funny” I mean “tragic”--by the time the retail markup was added, many of the newer breed of quickie masks were selling for roughly the same prices as the beautiful collectible ones had been before.

Just recently though, I’m seeing a very positive trend toward masks as art pieces, with a lot of new faces (artists and monsters) on the horror-izon.  People who are offering fine, handmade works of mask art aimed at true connoisseur.  I see more expert maskmakers right now than I have since the ‘80s.

LMC: Are there any mask artists that really stand out?

DL: I don’t know, but if they do they should come back in before it rains.

LMC: Any stuff you buy almost without seeing because you know the artists are that good?

DL: Yes, I think if Henry Alvarez decides to do a character, I can be sure I’m going to like his interpretation of it and I’d say “sign me up!” even before the sculpture is done.  I’d say the same thing about Cathy Tharp, John Smith, and Dwight Shundo, except Dwight isn’t working as a sculptor anymore.  And I know this is going to sound like nepotism, but I can’t help it, it’s the truth: I think Carol Hicks is that good too.  I think that if you like the character idea at all, if it’s being done by one of those people, you’re going to like the finished mask.  I love a lot of work by a lot of different artists, but those are some who are at the top of my list.

LMC: Tell us about some of the collectors out there.  Anyone rivaling your collection?  Friends that share the same affection for masks that you do?

DL: Is that “affection” or “affliction”?  When I was a teen I thought I must be the only person in the world with a roomful of monster masks.  But now that I’m an old corpse it’s amazing how many collector friends I have.  There are dozens of us who trade phone messages and such every time a cool new piece is produced.  Dan Roebuck, Bob Burns, Frank Tocco, Bill Simons, Scott Solomon, Rhonda Underwood, Rich Correll, Arthur DeLuca, Guy Thorpe, Ron Magid, Dante Renta, Rob Cametti, William Malouf, Jim Greenwald, Craig Teschler, Jamie Lurgio, Pete Roberts…those are a few of the people I know who have amazing wonderful collections.  All hopeless addicts, like me.

LMC: Do you like to collect any particular style of mask?  (movie masks, originals, etc.)?

DL: I used to collect pretty much everything.  Anything I saw that I liked, no matter the source.  But when we moved from Hollywood to Ohio I had to sell off a huge, huge portion of my collection to raise the money for the move.  And since most of the stuff I decided I could live without was the non-movie original designs, I guess that proved that the movie (or TV) character masks were ultimately more important to me.  And that’s mostly what I collect nowadays.

LMC: You wrote a few books on mask collecting and mask making.  What motivated writing them?

DL: People made me aware there was a demand for it.  I’d get calls and faxes and letters all the time, often from total strangers, asking questions about certain masks.  Who sculpted them, when were they made, what movie they were from, that sort of thing.  I started to realize that I was probably the only guy on the planet who’d collected all that information from ever since my childhood, and had most of it (quite accidentally) committed to memory.  So I figured the world needed a permanent, reliable, fully-researched guide for future collectors to refer to, in the event that I got run over by a steamroller or abducted by aliens or something and wasn’t around to pass on all of that information.  There needed to be a ‘one-stop’ source to contain all that history. 

LMC: Was it more work than expected?

DL: Oh, of course.  Everything takes longer than you expect it to take, even when you expect it to take longer than you expect it to take.

LMC: How have they sold?

DL:   Through mail order, mostly.  The first edition was successful enough that I had to do a second printing.  Then before long there had been so much more new stuff created that it seemed a little out of date.  So I did a new, revised-updated second edition.  I was pretty sure mask collectors would be happy to have a book like that, but the really great thing is that after awhile I started hearing from people who were never into masks until after they bought my books, and then became collectors, excited about this new world of collectibles they weren’t aware of before!  From what I hear, it seems that my books turned a lot of formerly normal human beings into fanatical mask collectors.  So it’s good to know I left my mark on the world.  A lot of people in the industry refer to my books now for mask info; even Don Post told me he carries a copy around with him on business trips so he can answer questions about his studio’s older products.  That was a huge compliment, for Don Post himself to respect my work.  I’m really glad I came out with those books; so many monster fans seem to have enjoyed them.

LMC: What’s your paint formula and paint style (airbrush, stipple, etc.)?

DL: I came up with my own paint formula back in the ‘80s.  I make all my own paint, using a latex makeup adhesive as a base.  It sticks to masks really well and stays flexible.  It doesn’t crack or rub off of latex like ordinary paints do.  The only drawback is that it doesn’t work over 100% of all the other paints other maskmakers use.  So when I’m commissioned to repaint something, I always dab a little paint on the back somewhere to see if it will stick to what’s already there.  On raw latex it’s unbeatable!  No good on vinyl, though.

As for technique, it depends on the character.  I use an airbrush most of the time or else a combination, but if the mask is a mummy or dried-out corpse character, sometimes it looks better to stipple paint it.  A lot of my masks start out getting a base coat of a dark red, brick or burgundy color.  Then I apply the main colors over that.  The dark red base coat doesn’t show by the time I’m finished, but I like the way the lighter colors look over top of it.  It’s just something I picked up through experimentation, trial and terror, err, I mean, error.  My ‘dead’ characters, zombies and the like, get painted with a black base coat.  It makes the final result look a little more cold, bloodless and creepy.  Which is how good zombies should usually look.  And which, come to think of it, is also how I usually look…

LMC: What kind of clay do you sculpt in?

DL: I use Roma Plastilina, which is an oil-based clay.  It never needs to be moistened, and never dries up and cracks.  I’m too emotional to use water clay!…If I ever got 90% finished with a sculpture and left it overnight, and then found the next morning that it had dried out and chunks the size of large rodents dropped off of it, I’d probably shoot myself.

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